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Hi Lili and Helen,

Sorry it is taking me so long to respond. Lili, you have been in my thoughts and prayers I have just had a really hectic past couple of days.

You are an amazing strong women Lili, I can tell by your posts that you have the perfect attitude. Like Helen, June_2006 and many other women who have gone through a loss know it is hard and there is nothing that any of us can say to make it any easier. I have a strong faith and I believe you do too. I think it helps us get through. Some may disagree with my beliefs but I honestly believe that God has a plan. It may not be obvious to us right now but he has a plan and some day we will may understand.

Your angel is exactly that, your little boy/girl in heaven watching over you and your family.

How is your little boy doing?

Miscarriage is often one of those unexplainable occurances. There is no way of telling if this will happen again. I have had 3 miscarriages and the loss of my twin in this pregnancy, I worry alot about miscarriage but then I have to keep reminding myself that I must keep my faith and keep postive. Often times (I am sure you heard this 100 times) miscarriage happens because of chromosome abmoralities and there is nothing that you can do to prevent it. The good news is that it is rare for this type of miscarriage to happen repeatly, although anything is possible. The best advice I can give you is live for today, try not to look back and try not to worry about tomorrow. For me focusing on today is often the best way to handle anything challenging.

I hope you are feeling a little better each time. Remember keep the faith always.

(((((((((hugs))))))))))))
Liz

Liz,
You girls have made me strong. If it wasn't because of you all I would still be behind that dark cloud and didn't worry about all the rest. But you all my friends here at shared journey and my family especially my 2 year old son are my strength you have help me go through the difficult times and had lead me htrough the light. I know that what happen to me is just past a few days and there's no way I can get over it. I will always remember my lil Angel and thank god especially with those pictures that i have of him/her are the best because I will always have something of him/her to remember.
I know how you might of felt when you lost you second baby and you are being so strong to keep the faith and keep that strength with you because you know that you still have your other baby and you have to keep on going with your life and live for him. I am happy that you are keeping the faith and god does have something for us and that something will come very soon, he knows what he is doing and he is doing it for a good reason. I am getting that more clearly and understanding what you all mean. I am keeping myself strong with faith because I know that god will bless me soon with a healthy baby. I will pray to god so much for this not to happen again and I know it won't because something is telling me that god is going to help me have a healthy baby soon. He is telling me to be strong and have faith and yes the faith is still with me and I will never lose it. He will take care of our lil Angels and from heaven they are watching over us.
Thank you so much for your support sister Liz, you are with me in the bad times and thats when I need from all of you. I still think it's a dream and that I want to wake up from this ugly dream but then realize that it's true and there's no way to change things. I will pray to god to help me get pregnant again with a healthy pregnancy and a healthy baby like my 2 year old son.
He is doing good he had a cold and cough but he is feeling better thank God he is the reason I am living and is the most wonderful treasure I have. he is my happiness in the good and bad times.

So how are you feeling Liz,
So what happen with your baby, did they take him out or did you m/c by yourself. because I have a friend who was pregnant with twins and one died and they were going to wait until she gave birth and then take out the dead baby out but until birth of the alive baby.

best wishes for your pregnancy and hope that oyu are feeling better take good care of your lil baby and I am praying for him so he can be born with good health.

Love you so much and lots of hugs for you and your lil one.

~Lili

Hi Lili,

How are you doing today? I hope you are feeling a lil better each day.

I have 3 beautiful children, Holly is my oldest she just turned 6. Then there is Emily who is 3 and Gavin her twin brother. They look nothing like each other at all. That was the funny part when they were born it was as if they were from 2 seperate pregnancies. I know when I went for the u/s with them the technician was like oh my God and I started to cry. She said why are you crying and I explained my loss to her from 8 months earlier. She said sweetie don't cry look. She turned the mmonitor and I saw the two of them and just started balling. My poor dh had to sit down he was so overcome by emotion. I knew right there and then I was blessed. They are truly amazing and to this day it is hard to believe that I actually had twins. What a wonderful gift children our. The funny part to is that they act nothing alike.

I am glad you got the picture of the baby. I was not as lucky. I lost my lil one at 10 1/2 weeks and all I have is the pathology report of the baby. It is still dear to me though because like you said it is a reminder that they did exist at one time.

(((((((((((((((( Big Hugs to you)))))))))))))))))))))))

I will talk to you later. Liz is right we have to live each day at a time.

Helen

Helen,
What is a pathology report if the baby?
I thank god for letting me have at least the pictures that is a big treasure for me to have as a memory of my angel.
I am feeling better, understanding better what god has done to me, but it's all for a good cause. I hope that I get lucky as you did and have twins, like yours that would be a bless and kinda recuperating my loss baby even though I will never replace my angel from someone else, but atleast bless me with twins. I will aske god for that bless.
I am happy for you and your wonderful children how lucky you are to have 3 children. I wish to have two or three children.
I saw the pictures of my baby and he/she was very lil and could tell that it was developing well. But god knows what happen. Hope that my doctor tells me what might been the cause so that I can know and take better care of myself next time.

Big hugs to you as well........................

~Lili

Hi Lili,

The pathology report was from the testing they did on the tissues of my baby. It showed nothing wrong with the baby which made it even harder to understand. All I know is that my lil ones heart stopped beating for some reason. I know the day I found out a part of mine stopped beating as well. I am very thankfull for my lil gang of babies. I pray that I will be blessed with at least one more. I don't blame you for not trying the ovulex again because I think twice since I was on it that I may have been pg and lost them before I could test. I had all the signs and symptoms. I know it messed my cycle up pretty bad to. I was regular before I took it and I was just hoping for a boost instead I got a mess. Who knows for sure though it just kind of makes you wonder. I know before long you will have your lil gang of munchkins chasing after you to.

Take care of yourself.

I will talk to you later.

(((((((((((((((((BIG HUGS))))))))))))))))))))

God Bless and watch over you,

Helen

Helen,
Ok I know what you mean. I am not sure if I am getting one. I don't think so but I sure would hope I can get one because I really wanted to know what really happen.
yeah I am not sure about ovulex. I think that I will try on my own from now on I mean without any pills like those ovulex. I still have some in my fridge but for some reason I think they were the cause of the loss of my baby. I hope not but I was taking them all the way till I found out that I was pregnant and I am concern that maybe those few weeks that I got pregnant and I was still taking them. Hope that ovulex wasn't the cause of my loss because I would feel very bad and I have even recomen ovulex with girls from the forum. And you know other girls here are pregnant and they took ovulex, so I guess that might not been the cause, but like you say who knows. Hope that my doctor tells me something atleast so I can fell better.
I hope that I don't have any problems trying to get pregnant again, and that I get bless with another baby soon and a healthy baby.
So how long did you wait to concieve again after your m/c. I have been told to wait at least 2 months before trying again. I am in no hurry so I will wait 2 monhs before trying again.

I take your word and hope that soon I'll get my lil gang to play with. I love big families and hope that my family keeps growing.

Love you so much tahnk you for everything..

(((((((((Lots of hugs)))))))))))

~Lili

Hi Lili and Helen,

We help each other stay strong! I was blessed to find this site and so many wonderful women, together we get through the times and also the happy times. It has always been so comforting to me to know that I am not alone!

I hope you are feeling a little stronger today. For me each day I got stronger, the hurt didn't go away but I felt stronger emotionally and physically.

I think 2 months is about the normal waiting time to ttc again after m/c. I believe they want you to have 2 normal cycles before trying again. I would take their advice with no matter what they say. They honestly know what is best for your physcially and also I think it is good to give yourself a little emotional break even if it is only for a month or 2. You have been through a lot and need to take care of yourself.

I hope you will be blessed with another little one soon. Keep the faith right?

I am glad to hear your little boy is feeling better.

I am doing very well. I lost the second twin at 8 weeks. They told me that the baby never developed and that it would be reabsorbed into my body. I never had the closure that you really do need with a loss. I believe it will be something I have to deal with after my baby is born. On my last u/s which was 2 weeks ago there was still a sac from the baby. They told me it would probably be there until after I give birth. It causes no problems it is just there.

I am off to get some much needed sleep.
I will talk to you later.
Take care,
Liz

Liz,
Thank you for all the encouragement and support you have given me. You've been such a help and I really appreciate that. Thank you so much for being here with me on this difficult days. I have faith that I will be blessed soon. god has told me and I believe in him.
I am doing much better. Everytime I get home from work I see the pictures of my baby in the u/s and that makes me feel better, because I will always remember my lil angel in heaven.
I will wait the two months and then try to concieve again. Hope that I have better luck this time and concieve fast because last time I took 8 months, hope that this time it's not the same.
I will talk to my doctor next tuesday and I'll let you girls know what she says. I need to let my body recuperate fully within those two months and hopefully be lucky.

I notice that you are a strong girl as well. You are being very strong and keeping the strength because you have your lil baby alive inside you and God bless your baby with health. I am praying for you so that everything turns out ok and your baby is born healthy. I know that god is with you and he will not let you down.
Love you lots of hugs...............

~Lili

Hi Lili,

How are you doing my lil trooper? I hope you are feeling a lil more better each day.

I waited the 2 months to try after our loss. I wanted to listen to everything the dr's. said so that I would not have to worry that I made a bad choice. I really in my heart wanted to start right away but I didn't want to risk anything. How is dh doing? How about your lil man?? Did you decide to go out to dinner with your 2 men for dh's birthday? Is it today or was it yesterday? I lost a day some how.LOL. I think it is a great idea for all of you to go, you need them close to you and they need you to.

I just wanted to pop in and say hi and to see how you were doing. Take care of yourself and if you need anything let me know I will be glad to try and help.

(((((((((((((((((((BIG HUGS))))))))))))))))))))))

Helen

Helen,
Thankyou so much my dear. You've been such a help. Thank you for being here with me in the bad times. Hope that soon we get good times.
I am feeling better, like you said better each day. I know that god has done the right for our family and he knows why.
My DH birthday was yesturday. I decided to get some pizza delivered at home and we ate pizza and had a cake for him. My lil boy was so excited that we couldn't wait to have some of the cake so him he eating in advance..lol
We had a great night the three of us. I will try and go out for dinner on saturday after my traffic school class, yuck.
Well I am keeping my self strong for my family.

Well I have to go back to the doctor and check up on how I am doing from the surgery. I hope that everything is ok so I can start again after my two months. I will wait the time the doctor tells me to wait just in case. I want to be recuperated and don't have any risk like you said.
My lil man is doing great, tomorrow he will stay almost all day with his daddy because I have to go to traffic school because I got a ticket in september, so in order for that ticket not to affect my insurance policy I will attend to that class, how exciting ha. :-/

Well so how is your family doing? Hope that everyone is doing great. Take good care and talk to you on monday.

Love, you, lots of hugs.........................

Lili

Hi Lili,

I am glad that you are feeling better each day. That was a great idea the pizza and cake for dh. I am sure your lil guy loved the cake. I know mine get all excited everytime there is a birthday. You would think it was theirs everytime. I leave them blow out the candles because they really get a kick out of it.

Oh yuck traffic class, well that is going to keep you busy tomorrow! The dreaded traffic class. The hard part is that we already know what we do wrong we don't need to go to class.LOL Its kind of like getting a detention in school.LOL

The family and I are doing great. The kids are getting really excited because we are making the plans for Thanksgiving dinner. The things that make them happy.LOL I know they will be on cloud nine as soon as the Christmas tree goes up. My poor tree this year with the twins, this is going to be interesting.LOL

I think it would be great to go out to dinner for you tomorrow. I know a lil change of scenary always helps me. You will probably be bored to death from traffic class and it will do you some good.

You take care of yourself.

(((((((((((((((((BIG HUGS)))))))))))))))))))))))

Love you Lili,

Helen

Helen,
I know detention? I never got any detention at school and know I am getting it?..lol Yeah shounds funny but o well had to do it anyways.

I need to do something to get my mind out of what had happen. Everytime I think that I am not pregnant I get depressed and start thinking of all that happen last week. I just need to stop thinking of it and do other things that amke me forget that. I need to be happy because I now have an angel that will be protecting me and my family.
So I want to do other things and kinda for get that terrible tragedy.

Yeah I love when my son gets excited about the cake he couldn't wait and was putting his lilttle fingers in the cake and erased the part where it said, happy birthday daddy! ..lol He thought it was his birthday..lol

That is excited when you start making your plans for a holiday. My mom was saying that maybe we are not going to have a christmas tree because of my 2 year old, he will destroy it once we put it up..lol and we may not bother and wrap any gifts because they will be unwrap in no time..lol

Well I will try and have a good day tomorrow at the traffic school. Or at least do it so I can get over it and forget about that.

I will talk to you on monday.

I hope that you and your family have a great weekend take good care.

I have one question? After your m/c you have been trying to concieve again? And just not happening?

Well I love you 2 and lot of hugs.....................

~Lili

Hi Lili,

I started trying after the two months like the dr's. said. My af was so messed up after the m/c. I was so irregular. I would end up getting it every 2 weeks. My dr. explained to me that it was because I m/c on my own and it takes some people a lil longer for their hormones to balance when they lose them naturally. He said that the surgery like you had would have been better because they make sure that there is nothing left in your uterus that can throw things off. I think you will be just fine. I think a lot of my problem to was that I was so stressed from wanting it to happen that I threw my whole body out of whack.

I will talk to you later.

Take care. Try to have a good day tomorrow.

Love ya Lili,

Helen

Helen,
Ok I know what you are saying. Thats what my doctor said that the d&c was better because they would clean everything and make sure there was anything left in there. Do you have an idea of how many weeks it would take so that af comes?
I had the surgery last thursday and was spotting since wednesday, then today friday I was spotting alittle, may that be normal or what do you think. The nurse said that I was going to be spotting for a week, so I guess as long as it's alot of bleeding I should be ok.

I guess that I will try to get pregnant after my two months pass but this time like you said not stress to much and let it happen on it's own, last time before I got pregnant I was stressing to much to get pregnant that everything result in a bad way, so this time I will let god decide when it will be the best.
I hope it doesn't affect me in my cycle because i've been irregular since ever I know and I hope that it gets better if not I will do the temp. charting and drinking green tea and hope that helps.

I will try to have a good day tomorrow.

Have a great weekend.

God Bless your family,

Love ya 2

~Lili

Hi Lili,

I had the spotting for ten days. The dr. told me that it would be anywhere from 7-10 days. I went the whole ten days. My af showed up on schedule about 6 weeks after the m/c. The dr. said that it takes about 6 weeks for your cycle to return. Why were you irregular? Did they ever tell you why. How irregular were you? Was it just by a couple of days or was it months? The best thing we can do is put it into Gods hands. He already knows the outcome. All we can do is pray that it happens and that everything goes well. I hope this helped you some.

Talk to you later.

Take care.

Helen

Helen,
It really helps alot, thank you so much. Ok so that means waiting for 6 weeks it seems like forever.
Well the spotting comes and then goes but it's nothing bad.
Well ever since I got my period my periods where like from CD 32 to 45 not that bad like months, they were only for days but I would never know when af would show up. I kinda got an idea when I started to temp. it did help me alot, to know when I was ovulating and that stuff, so now that I got that idea it would become easier for me to know when are my most fertile days and hope that good helps me and bless me with a healthy pregnancy.
I will pray to god so he can help me, but I will do everything without stress.
My doctor told me when I told her about af never be on time she just said that if I started for the first time and my af was like that everytime then it was something normal, she sad that most womens are like that are others are very regular, so how knows I know that I can get pregnant because of my two previous pregnancies but one lady told me one day that my ovarians were very weak and weren't in the correct position and that sometimes causes the effect to get pregnant. This old lady once was a doctor and I guess she does know thats why I was going with her so that she can give me some massages in my stomach and put my ovarians in positon, but she has moved to some other place that I don't know where she left to and I don't know where to go and get that massages I do really have faith in that and I will look for some lady who can do those massages.
have you ever heard of that?
Well sister, thank you very much you have helped me alot in my questions.

Well I'm almost about to go home and take care of my baby boy so I will talk to you on monday take good care of yourself and have a great weekend.

Love you,

Lili