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Hi Liz --

Hope the shot went well last night, as well as shots can go, I guess. I know it is hard, but try not to be nervous -- from what I understand, things really look good! You are doing all you can to ensue the best possible outcome, and that's all you can do. You've got a caring, expert team behind you, including Frank and, really, all of us here (we're at least experts in emotion and experience). Think about how all these good signs are converging and try to enjoy the next day or two and let it happen -- yeah, great advice we've all heard a thousand times. And I know how hard it is to take.

For me, really, the hardest times during this ttc are during the two week wait -- right now, I am optimistic, I feel like we have a chance, I feel like, this month with be different. It is as I head toward my period, as signs and symptoms begin and I try to convince myself to keep hoping....that is when the nervousness and disappointment creep in. But right now -- be positive!

Thank you for your email. I sometimes forget we are not having totally private conversations! And though I haven't yet written anything I would mind others reading, I can see myself thinking I'm just having a discussion with you Liz and perhaps share too much! Though I have to say, this forum is very respectful and polite and grateful, compared to some I've seen. So, anyway, I will send you along an email soon, perhaps when I return from Toronto on Monday or this afternoon, if I get a breather to myself earlier! I would love to hear what's going on with you, what has gone on...and I appreciate you willing to share it. I'm thinking we will find ourselves more similar the more we talk...

Well, it's still early! This means I have time to clean up before heading to the airport at 1:30. See how well I plan things? Ha, ha.

Today is the start of a new chance, a new opportunity -- good luck! Take care and talk to you soon -

Slatka

Hi Slatka,

You are absolutly correct in saying we are doing everything possible. I try hard to look at it that way as well. Deep inside I know that we can do everything to make it happen, but we still don't have 100% control over it. I know you understand what I mean.

The shot went fine, actually this is my 3rd month and this time it is not sore at all. Of course that is probably a good thing, meaning Frank did another wonderful job. You know me then I think Oh, no what if he did it wrong and it won't trigger ovulation. You know the drill. Sometimes I swear I dream up stuff in my head to worry my self sick about.

This website has been such a saving grace for me. I have met so many wonderful women. I honestly can say I don't know how well I would get through this without you and some others here. Your support means more then words can ever express.

The ttc stress is always there, it is as you said worse for me in the 2ww. I just over analyze everything. Every cramps, every twinge, everything. If there was 1 thing (other then a BFP) that I could wish for that would be to be able to relax completly during the wait and let things happen without worry.

So you are off to Canada. Don't worry about the last min. stuff, I do it all the time and you know I think I am a better packer under pressure. Usually during the summers Frank and I are away every other weekend if not every weekend. I have become a professional last min. packer. I usually wait till Thurs. night and we are leaving Friday. No matter how hard I try I just can not get it done earlier.

I hope you have a wonderful weekend away with Sonny visiting your in-laws. I am sure you are excited. As for your friend, good luck. I know you are worried about it, but try to relax and just enjoy yourself. Have a martini and relax! :) Don't forget about the sex in a different location, it could be your lucky month. I will keep my fingers crossed.

I will talk with you when you get back. Have a very safe and fun trip.

Take care,
Liz

Hey Liz --

Just a quick goodbye! I'm on my way out the door. I go through this frenzy of over-packing, then right before I go, I think, "who the hell cares?" and am quite nonchalant about it.

I'm looking forward to visiting with my parents-in-law and my other friends: its tough, I hope she isn't pregnant, but I hope she is, if that's what they are planning right now. She's a sweet, sweet person who looks up to me a bit, I think, because I am older and hence "sophisticated." Well, it will be nice to be just a part of the family for a few days.

Much good luck to you tomorrow (and of course tonight, and tomorrow night, and the next night for good measure!). It's hard -- just try to be at peace. My mantra lately is 'peace" -- that and 'have mercy on me!" sometimes said seriously, sometimes said humorously.

I'm off to the Great White North where I get to make fun of their money, make jokes about sleds and igloos, say "Aboot" for "about" and ask them about their queen. Oh, they love me there!

Take care -- I'll miss you! And we'll reconnect in a few days --

Slatka

Hey there Slatka :)

I believe you are back today.

Welcome home! I hope you had a great trip. I look forward to hearing all about it.

Talk to you soon,
Liz

Hey Liz --

I wrote you an email yesterday -- the subject line is "Slatka" (I know my own junk mail filter is high, so I wanted you to be able to recognize the email). Please let me know if you got it or I can re-send it.

It is about quarter to 8 in the morning and already it is hot hot hot outside. I have to do all my errands now, as soon as stores open; then I can hide out inside during the heat of the day.

I'll talk to you soon -- I'm home for a few weeks now and can actually chat with some leisure - yea! And if you didn't get my email, I can fill you in on what it said -- all my updates!

Take care and we'll talk soon -- Missed you!
Slatka

Hey there, Welcome back.

I got your email, I sent you one back. Let me know if you don't get it.

You know I can hardly believe that "cramping during the wait" is already on it's 2nd cycle. I can't believe that 1 month has gone by. Time sure is flying by. I am not sure this is a good or bad thing though, with ttc it may not be the best. Oh, well we do what we can.

So, are you officially in the 2ww? I am on my 4th day. Surprisingly I am really calm. I think the house is taking up most of my mind and the wait is on the back burner. This could be a good thing since I tend to over analyze everything.

I must go, quick get caught up on posts and then get some work done.

Talk to you soon,
Liz

I have been feeling a pinching sensation in my pelvic area, but if you look at my chart I have not ovulated yet. I don't feel like I have ovulated either. Anyway wouldn't it be too early for implemenation cramping? But, I guess with pregnancy at some point nature will take its course and the books cannot pinpoint every little detail of conception.

Hi Fiestebrown --

For me, the cramping I often feel is during and post-ovulation and it rumbles along until my period comes.

Do you use an ovulation predictor to see exactly when you are ovulating? Ovulation can change from cycle to cycle, a day or so in either direction. I would guess -- but I don't know for sure! -- that the pinching you feel is just a precursor to ovulation. Normal hormonal changes that you just happen to notice this month. It's only now, that I've been ttc post-m/c, that I have been REALLY tuned in to my body and am aware of all the twinges and changes. I would suppose you are just more conscious of the changes leading up to ovulation this cycle. I would doubt it's implanation: that takes place about 8-12 days post fertilization. That would mean you ovulated on about Day 3 of your current cycle, which I don't think can happen (though it might).

Good luck! I would just keep on track with the idea that ovulation is right now and go for it!

Take care -
Slatka

Hey there Slatka,

I am extrememly frustrated with my internet. I sent you a longggggggg email, finished went to send it and guess what? I had to sign back into my email and the message is now gone. Oh, well anyway I will have to redo it. Probably won't be today as I am very busy at work. I must leave alittle early. Frank and I are going to look at bathrooms. I need more options.

Anyway, I will try to get back to you later today if not tomorrow. I still don't have phone service, I am getting very annoyed with Verizon.

How is everything with you? Great news on the house. I am so excited for you and Sonny. This is great, your 1st house. I can imagine your excitement. I know I am right there with you except I have to wait a year to move into my house. Good things come to those who wait right?

I have so much to catch you up on, I also want to run some new info I received on hormones by you and get your opinion. For now I must get to my work again.

Talk to you soon,
Take care and keep on bding! (and whatever else you need to do to make it happen :) With the ac of course. This heat is unbearble.

Take care and good luck! I am crossing everthing for you guys.
Liz

I am ovulating now, it started this morning. I don't have a predictor but I could tell by my fluid changes. How long does ovulation last, is it 24-48 hrs.


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Hi Fiestebrown --

For me, the cramping I often feel is during and post-ovulation and it rumbles along until my period comes.

Do you use an ovulation predictor to see exactly when you are ovulating? Ovulation can change from cycle to cycle, a day or so in either direction. I would guess -- but I don't know for sure! -- that the pinching you feel is just a precursor to ovulation. Normal hormonal changes that you just happen to notice this month. It's only now, that I've been ttc post-m/c, that I have been REALLY tuned in to my body and am aware of all the twinges and changes. I would suppose you are just more conscious of the changes leading up to ovulation this cycle. I would doubt it's implanation: that takes place about 8-12 days post fertilization. That would mean you ovulated on about Day 3 of your current cycle, which I don't think can happen (though it might).

Good luck! I would just keep on track with the idea that ovulation is right now and go for it!

Take care -
Slatka
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Fiestebrown -

I can tell you that usually about 2 days before ovulation I can notice a change in cm. I get severe cramping at the time of ovulation. Every women is different, this is just my experience.

Hope it helps.
Liz

Hi Liz!

How are you holding up in the "dark ages" with no phone???! I hope they get to fixing it ASAP...I know how frustrated you must be. I really look forward to your email, but take your time -- I totally understand the work/lack of internet access/bathroom hunting situation!

Speaking of bathrooms, how many are you planning? Anything special with them, like a big tub or one of those huge glassed-in showers? (My parents-in-law are expert designers in terms of bathrooms -- it's a treat to be at their place. They have this rainforest, multiple shower-head thing going on. Lots of mirrors and glass, though the mirrors can be a little overpowering depending on how I feel about my body that day!).

Well, I think I am officially done with ovulation, but it won't hurt to 'top off the tank' -- ok, I can't believe I wrote that. Can't wait to hear what's been up with you and talk about new info on hormones you discovered. I'll hear from you tomorrow and we'll catch up!

Take care and bang the phone around once or twice to get out the Verizon frustration. They can feel it that way! Ha, ha.

Slatka

HI Fiestebrown --

From what I understand, once the egg is released and starts traveling down the Fallopian tube, it lives for 24 hours. The sperm has got to find it and penetrate it before it dies -- it's got a 24 hour window. The ovulation predictor I use (and advice I've gotten from my OB) shows the LH rise at the very beginning, so it means I will ovulate within 24-48 hours as soon as I notice a change in the urine (it doesn't mean I am ovulating for 48 hours). SInce sperm can live for a few days inside of us, it's always a good idea to start having intercourse several days prior to ovulation so it's hanging around when the egg is released.

Hope that helps! Good luck! Now's the time!

Slatka

Hey Slatka -

I sent you an email, hopefully this one made it too you.

To start we have 2 1/2 bathrooms. There is a master bath attached to our bedroom and another for the "kids" (sooner or later it has to happen right?). We also have a powder room. When we finish the upstairs after a few years there will be another full bath and 2 bedrooms. Our bathroom is the one I am "playing" with. I am getting a whirlpool tub and then a seperate shower with most likely clear shower doors. The problem is I can not believe the price of the shower stall. $2300.00 for a shower! Frank and I think it might be cheaper to tile it, which is what I wanted anyway. I need to keep doing my homework.

My kitchen is pretty much my pride and joy. I am willing to sacrifice in many areas but not there. I love to cook and I have to have my dream kitchen (within reason of course). Tomorrow I am going to see the kitchen people again. I changed my mind on the cabinets and need to get it done again. :) Womens choice to change their mind right?

Back to my work I shall go,
Talk to you soon,
Liz

Slatka -

We haven't been here in awhile! Thought I would stop in and visit our old forum. :) Actualy I guess it is active again as we are in the 2ww!

I hope all is well, you sound like you are doing great!

Take care,
Liz

Hi Liz --

I know, we've been 'neglecting' this thread! That's ok, since we've just continued the conversation off of it. It's Sunday today, and I'm snatching a few moments to check in...weekends are busy with catching up with my husband, even if we just lay around in the air conditioning!

You test toward the end of the week, right? Hope you are feeling well and hopeful..I don't try until beginning of next week. I will talk to you over email soon.

Take care, Slatka