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anjabelle - Oct 10th, 2007 8:56 PM
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Hi -- this is maybe the 3rd time I've posted here. Last post was when I went through my 3rd IUI at least 6 months ago. A little quick history -- I turned 40 in March. Yuck. Have been TTC for almost 3 years now. No children as of yet. None of the IUIs worked obviously, but we somehow managed to get pregnant on our own twice in between although both ended up in m/c after about 6 weeks.

First IVF retrieval was back in August this year. They retrieved 7 follicles of which 5 were good and were inseminated. We chose to do genetic testing given history and were told at day 5 that all were abnormal for various reasons.

Now on second IVF and tried a different protocol from last go around. On At end of September they retrieved 12 follicles of which 6 were good and were inseminated. At day 2 we were left with only 3 good embryos and decided to do a day 3 transfer at which point we only had 2 good embryos. Not sure of number of cells.

On 10/4 we did the transfer and I am now exactly 7 days into this "wait." Had very sore breasts up until yesterday morning and then pretty much nothing today either. I've read the soreness can be due to the endometrin and the Vivelle estrogen patches, but I am not sure.

Just wondering if anyone has/is experiencing these same changing symptoms and if I should be worried -- which of course I am. My ovaries do seem to be aching a bit, which I thought was more akin to the symptoms I felt from the injectables (prior to retrieval).

Any thoughts anyone has that is roughly in my same boat would be really appreciated. Thanks for listening. This road is so hard and long and has soooooo many bumps in it. Trying to be positive, but it is very difficult at the moment.

anjabelle


lisa13 - Oct 10th, 2007 9:42 PM

Hi anjabelle,

I live in Chicago and I did my transfer on the 6th of october ;D we did a 5 day with 2 embryo 4aa and i found out on the 17th. we can be waiting buddies.

I have the same symptoms.

Who is your doctor . mine is Dr. Marut in highland park

all my
lisa


mjforney - Oct 10th, 2007 11:55 PM

Hi Anjabelle:
I was sore, especially my breasts for about 5 days after the transfer. The worst night for me was night 3 after the retrieval.

Just take it easy. Stay down, let people wait on you and don't lift anything. Stay positive, it is important. :)

Stay in touch with the ladies (us) on this site, everyone is so supportive and helpful. The 2 week wait is the longest 2 weeks so just relax and dream!!! Keep the faith!


doglover - Oct 11th, 2007 7:57 AM

Hi Anjabelle
I am also in the dreaded two week wait. I participated in a free in vitro study at my clinic so I was injected with a mystery drug (scary...). They retrieved 11 eggs on Saturday. All 11 fertilized with ICSI. They immediately froze 3 embryos and left the remainder out to grow. We ended up with five decent embyros by day 3. We transferred 2 embryos of good quality on Tuesday-I think they were a 7 cell and 8 cell. I wish we could afford genetic testing...
So far I feel absolutely nothing but constipated. I have no breast tenderness even though I am on progesterone (I have no explanation for that). I tried very hard to do the two days bed rest-I nearly went crazy. So I am worried bc I feel nothing at all. My preg test is on Oct 19. I have to go in for an ultrasound/bw tomorrow so they can check my lining and prog/estradiol levels. Unfortunately, the study does not allow us to use an estrogen supplement. We are only on a set dose of progesterone gel that I use at night.
I am glad to find others to get through this hard time!
Talk to you later,
Lindsay

p.s. What recommendations were you given about bed rest/activity?


lisa13 - Oct 11th, 2007 8:43 AM

dear all,

jus woke up i am 5 days past transfer just woke up like im getting af i know i am not or hope i am not but that the way it feels and i am terrible constipated even though i have taken colase and make my own juice. anyways off to work. no
computer there talk to you guys tonight. have a great day


anjabelle - Oct 11th, 2007 12:30 PM

[quote author=lisa13 link=board=15;threadid=4791;start=0#41608 date=1192066927]
Hi anjabelle,

I live in Chicago and I did my transfer on the 6th of october ;D we did a 5 day with 2 embryo 4aa and i found out on the 17th. we can be waiting buddies.

I have the same symptoms.

Who is your doctor . mine is Dr. Marut in highland park

all my
lisa
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Hi Lisa -- I'm not sure if I've ever replied to anyone on this, so I hope I'm doing this right. We can definitely be waiting "buddies". I will cross my fingers for you (and for me obviously). Let's hope all goes well! BTW, my doctor is Dr. Kaplan -- I've done the retrieval and transfers in HP, but the regular check-ups (US and bloodwork) at River North since we live in the city.

Anjabelle



anjabelle - Oct 11th, 2007 12:35 PM

[quote author=doglover link=board=15;threadid=4791;start=0#41618 date=1192103857]
Hi Anjabelle
I am also in the dreaded two week wait. I participated in a free in vitro study at my clinic so I was injected with a mystery drug (scary...). They retrieved 11 eggs on Saturday. All 11 fertilized with ICSI. They immediately froze 3 embryos and left the remainder out to grow. We ended up with five decent embyros by day 3. We transferred 2 embryos of good quality on Tuesday-I think they were a 7 cell and 8 cell. I wish we could afford genetic testing...
So far I feel absolutely nothing but constipated. I have no breast tenderness even though I am on progesterone (I have no explanation for that). I tried very hard to do the two days bed rest-I nearly went crazy. So I am worried bc I feel nothing at all. My preg test is on Oct 19. I have to go in for an ultrasound/bw tomorrow so they can check my lining and prog/estradiol levels. Unfortunately, the study does not allow us to use an estrogen supplement. We are only on a set dose of progesterone gel that I use at night.
I am glad to find others to get through this hard time!
Talk to you later,
Lindsay

p.s. What recommendations were you given about bed rest/activity?
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Hi Lindsay,
Interesting that you are able to participate in the study, but it must be difficult not to know what the drug is. But, if it works -- WOW. That would be great. I don't know enough about this process to say one way or another how important the estrogen supplemant is, but I'm sure you could ask someone. As for rest after the retrieval -- the recommended 2 days of full rest and thereafter, no strenuous activity. I've tried to adhere to that for the most part -- haven't done any heavy lifting, but we do have 3 flights of stairs which can be exhausting.

It's nice you get to go in for a US and bloodwork though. I don't have any of that until the 17th, so it is a mind game at this point. And, my breast tenderness that I experienced the first 5 days is almost entirely gone. So, that's what has be me a little worried, too. BUT, I've read that you can have those symptoms and have them go away, come back, etc. and it isn't necessarily indicative of being pregnant or NOT. It's different for everyone, supposedly. So, keep the faith, I guess. That's all we can really do, isn't it? ; )


anjabelle - Oct 11th, 2007 12:41 PM

[quote author=mjforney link=board=15;threadid=4791;start=0#41611 date=1192074910]
Hi Anjabelle:
I was sore, especially my breasts for about 5 days after the transfer. The worst night for me was night 3 after the retrieval.

Just take it easy. Stay down, let people wait on you and don't lift anything. Stay positive, it is important. :)

Stay in touch with the ladies (us) on this site, everyone is so supportive and helpful. The 2 week wait is the longest 2 weeks so just relax and dream!!! Keep the faith!


Hi MJForney -- Thanks for your nice note. Did your breast tenderness go away then after the 5th day? Just curious. I also had a REALLY hard time with the retrieval this go-around. I was bloated and could barely walk and going to the bathroom was not fun. But, they did a US to check for fluid and all looked fine. I checked with my Dr. to ask why so bad this go-around vs last and he said, it's just different each time. I had 12 follicles this time and 7 last, so more pin-pricks I suppose.

I AM trying to remain positive. You are right -- all you can do is keep the faith. And dreaming -- well, that hasn't been a problem at all. I've had more crazy dreams and REMEMBERED them than I have in the past 10 years. I think it's the progesterone and estrogen. Or, something! Anjabelle

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mjforney - Oct 11th, 2007 6:33 PM

Hey Lisa:
It is commen, so I have read to feel like AF is coming to visit! The side effects from everything that your bidy has gone through are certian to be there.

How did your 1st day back at work go today???

M


lisa13 - Oct 11th, 2007 7:58 PM

Hi Mich ;D

My first day back was exhausting. I just got home. Work is annoying because my head is not into it. thank for the af advice. I am so happy for you. I am working frid,sat,sun,mon and tuesd ugh. Sunday only 12-4. and then back home to relax.
thanks for thinking of me. good luck tommorrow ;D for your 2nd beta appt.
all my best.
lisa


lisa13 - Oct 11th, 2007 8:01 PM

Dear Anjabell,

We are in the same office together Yea!!!! Everyone either goes to Kaplan or Marut. I hear Kaplans the best Are you back at work. I went back today. yuk.
I go next wednesday for my beta.
Hope all is well with you today.
my best
lisa


wolffie - Oct 12th, 2007 11:07 AM

Hi! I am brand new here. I live in the Chicago area and my doc is out of Buffalo Grove FCI. Our retrieval and transfer were at Highland Park. I had my retrieval on Oct. 5th and our transfer was on the 10th. We transferred two 4AA blastocysts. I too have breast tenderness I think it's all the meds. They've been sore since the stimulation phase.


mjforney - Oct 12th, 2007 3:32 PM

How is everyone feeling today?


mjforney - Oct 12th, 2007 3:34 PM

Wolffie:
Is this your 1st IVF? Tell us all about it. How many eggs did you have and how many fertilized.?

WOW, they put in 4...


wolffie - Oct 12th, 2007 5:26 PM

Yes, this is our first IVF. Sorry...I think my post was a bit confusing. They transferred two back but they were very good quality blastocyst stage (quality was 4AA).

They were able to retrieve 9 eggs only 5 of which were mature. All five fertilized and four out of the five made it to the blastocyst stage. Three were excellent quality and one was okay. We transferred two of the best quaity and froze the other two.

The transfer was on Wed the 10th. I took Wed, Thurs, and Fri off work. It's been nice relaxing but I am beginning to get a bit stir crazy.


lisa13 - Oct 12th, 2007 6:31 PM

Hey Wolffie,

I did my transfer on the 6th with 2 grade 4aa's. I live in Buffalo Grove I find out on the 17th. How about you?
Who is your Doctor? Mine is Marut. I'm back at work.
This is my first ivf also. Where do you live?


wolffie - Oct 12th, 2007 6:43 PM

Hey neighbor...I live in Arlington Heights! My doc is Jacobs. Our preg test is scheduled for the 22nd. How long did you take off work before going back? Did you tell anyone at work? I work in a school and a lot of people know since I have been gone so much lately. I am a little nervous about questions when I get back. Any survival tips?


mjforney - Oct 12th, 2007 7:59 PM

Wolffie:
It is hard to stay down, but force yourself to! This is a cruicial time!
How have you been feeling? <y cramping was bad after the retrieval andI was so sore all over. But..after the first week I got better.

What date is your beta blood scheduled for?

Keep us posted on how you are doing!


mjforney - Oct 12th, 2007 8:02 PM

Lisa;

How are you doing?
My beta came back strong today. It more than doubled and is at 553. I scheduled my 1st ultrasound for Oct 29, 10am....

How are you feeling?


lisa13 - Oct 12th, 2007 8:03 PM

Hey wolffie,

we are mirror images of each other. I took 4 days off and thursday was my first day back. Everyone at work knows-- first day back was exhausting. I manage a retail store in Highland Park; on my feet all day. Most of my symptoms have gone except cramping and swollen bbs. My advice is just be open and honest; nothing to be ashamed of. If anything, it is a beautiful process. How is your husband taking all this? Are you doing endometrin or the shots?


wolffie - Oct 12th, 2007 8:18 PM

Hi Lisa -

My husband is taking all this very well. He is a very positive person. I experienced a ruptured ectopic pregnancy in June. Before we knew it was ectopic we knew there was something wrong but not sure what. My doc thought it was going to result in a miscarriage. Our BHCG was normal but progesterone was not. My husband thought everything was going to be fine while I was trying to save myself emotionally. He is convinced this IVF will be successful. It's wonderful that he is so positive but I am still trying to remain guarded but hopeful. How has your husband been?

I am doing endometrin suppositories 3x daily and progsterone shot every 3 days. Also the vivelle (sp?) patches. What are you doing?

By the way I grew up in HP...ironic.


lisa13 - Oct 12th, 2007 8:18 PM

Hey Michelle;

Hope your doing well. So Happy your appt went well. I am so excited for you.
Hope i can join the train your on soon. keep praying for me. by the way work sucks. i am just not into it right now
Doing anything fun this weekend
xoxoxlisa


lisa13 - Oct 12th, 2007 8:22 PM

When did you graduate from hp


lisa13 - Oct 12th, 2007 8:24 PM

When did you graduate from hp


wolffie - Oct 12th, 2007 8:26 PM

[quote author=mjforney link=board=15;threadid=4791;start=15#41694 date=1192233575]
Wolffie:
It is hard to stay down, but force yourself to! This is a cruicial time!
How have you been feeling? <y cramping was bad after the retrieval andI was so sore all over. But..after the first week I got better.

What date is your beta blood scheduled for?

Keep us posted on how you are doing!
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Michelle -

For the most part I have been feeling fine. Some cramping the last couple days which made me nervous but the doc said it's probabaly still my ovaries recovering from the trauma of the retrieval. My boobs hurt, but that's about it. Did you experience any other symptoms?

Blood is scheduled for the 22nd.

From reading other posts it looks as though things are going really well for you!


wolffie - Oct 12th, 2007 8:30 PM

[quote author=lisa13 link=board=15;threadid=4791;start=15#41702 date=1192235064]
When did you graduate from hp
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I actually went to Deerfield HS but lived in HP. Went to elem. and middle school in HP. Graduated in '97. I worked at Perfect Blend Coffee Shop in downtown HP in high school (if you're familiar).

small world!


lisa13 - Oct 12th, 2007 8:38 PM

Wolffie,
I graduated from hp in 89; my husband graduated from drfld in 89; Do you have any brothers or sisters? I grew up in Ravinia on Pleasant ave. crazy small world.
I also had and etopic pregnancy when I was 21; a long time ago. It was horrible had emergency surgery. We also had a miscarriage last february. I am just on the endometrin 3 supp. a day. My husband sounds alot like your husband; alot of ra ra sis boom ba. ya gotta love them for all the support. My husband also a teacher; he works in norrthbrook


wolffie - Oct 12th, 2007 8:46 PM

Lisa -

I have a younger brother...

My cousin went to HP but not sure when she graduated she is about 32/33years.

Are you on any estrogen support?

How long have you been married?


lisa13 - Oct 12th, 2007 8:51 PM

Wolffie,
I have been married 3 year to the best guy in the world. how bout you?

I am actually not. I am on prenatal; baby asprin and endometrin and that is it.
Are you? If so how does that work?

I actuall had a ultra sound at the BG office; Marut is also in FCI. Anjabelle who is on this forum also went to the hp for her transfer; Isnt that a crazy coincidence.

I work at Enaz next to Country Kitchen. what do you do


mjforney - Oct 12th, 2007 8:58 PM

Lisa;

Of course I am still pryaing for you! ABSOLUTLEY! And Wolffie now to. We need all the prayers we can get and positive energy!!

I am just relaxing this weekend. My hubby leaves for vegas on monday for business (wine convention).
We just got invited to go to Italy next month. Now I don't think I can go. Its a fully paid trip...oh well. I cant have wine anyway!! Do you think Italy is to risky for me at this point? I want to play everything safe!!


lisa13 - Oct 12th, 2007 9:04 PM

Michelle,

YOUAREGOINGTOITALY!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
definatel
y
not to risky. Oh you got to go. You will be wonderful. All that fresh air and amazing food; the wine would be nice but so what. Can you believe me and wolffie live 10 minutes from each other. isn't that crazy? so back to Italy. just play it safe in Italy sooooooooooooo romantic; I think it is the perfect time.

and if anyone deserved italy; its you!!!

My hubby just came home with cheesecakefactory yum!!!! my nipple are finally not killing me; thank g-d. still have minor cramps. ugh.

xooxlisa


wolffie - Oct 12th, 2007 9:06 PM

[quote author=lisa13 link=board=15;threadid=4791;start=15#41712 date=1192236689]
Wolffie,
I have been married 3 year to the best guy in the world. how bout you?

I am actually not. I am on prenatal; baby asprin and endometrin and that is it.
Are you? If so how does that work?

I actuall had a ultra sound at the BG office; Marut is also in FCI. Anjabelle who is on this forum also went to the hp for her transfer; Isnt that a crazy coincidence.

I work at Enaz next to Country Kitchen. what do you do


Lisa -

I actually just got married in June. We have been together for 8 years and living together for 4. We knew we wanted to try for kids right away since my gyne said we may have difficulty due to my endometriosis. We conceived right away...before the wedding....but then had the ectopic.

I am on prenatal, baby asprin, endometrin, progesterone injection (every 3 days), and Vivelle dots - which is the estrogen. I'm not exactly sure how they work or what they are supposed to do. I wonder how the docs decide who is on what med regime.

I am a school social worker in Elmwood Park with 7th and 8th graders. What grade does your husband teach?

Is country Kitchen still accross from the movie theater? How long has Enaz been there? I don't think I remember it. My parents moved out of HP to the city this past summer. I didn't really get back there much.


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