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As far as preganncy rate with frozen embryo transfer, that is clinic specific. It is possible that there is a sperm problem as a reason for no fertiliization. If the lab did not do a careful assessment of morphology, using Kruger's stricit criteria, it is easy to miss. Also, ICSI does rarely result in failed fertilization. In the single case in my practice, after the husband had his varicoceles repaired, we were able to achieve an ICSI pregnancy. |
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Thank you so much for the answer Dr Jacobs. |
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Please understand that just because you did not get fertilization does not mean someone did something wrong. |
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There is a small risk to the embryo, when it is biopsied to do the testing. Unless there is a specific problem you are trying to find, it is not a very useful exercise. All embryos have some bad cells, even if they eventually produce good pregnancies. You will discars good embryos that way. |
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There may be no need for bed rest, at all. I am still having my patients remain at bed rest for 30 minutes after embryo transfer, and, last year, we had a roughly 50% pregnancy rate. More recent data imply that even 30 minutes mat not be necessary. |
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There are number of potential reason for failed fertilization with ICSI. The greatest is a sperm problem, but technique of injection could play a role. As far as your eggs are concerned, 39 year old eggsa are not the same as22 year old eggs. There is a significantly greater probability that they will not have the correct number of chromosomes. That will probably not impair fertilization, but does decrease your potential for a healthy pregancy. |
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Sperm coount and motility are only half of the information I need from a semen analysis. A properly performed assessment of sperm morphology provides good information about whether or not sperm can enter eggs. Even with ICSI there are rae circumstances that the sperm pro nucleus does not decondence, so that it can merge egg pro nucleus. That merging of the 2 pronucleii is the actual fertilization. If the sperm are motile, they are not dead, but there may be a molecular problem interferring withthe decondesaton process. |
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I am 36 with FSH 5.6. Partner has low sperm count between 1 and 40 million with low mortility between 1 and 6%. We have just had a cycle of icsi with no fertilization. I only produced 5 eggs, 4 of which were mature. |
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I would expect someone as youg as you are, with a low FSH to respond better. Perhaps an alternative stimulation protocol would be of benefit. |
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Many thanks. The first protocol was the long protocol with suprecur and menopur (150). The second one was a short protocol with the same drugs but menopur at 225. |
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There are several variants of several protocols. There are several different products available which contain the FSH need to grow follicles. I do not know the product, Suprecur by that name. I assume you are not in the United States. It is probably 1 of several which prevents the release of FSH and LH from the pituitaty. |
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Thank you. Suprecur is the down regulator.You are right I am from UK. Many thanks for your reponse. Is there any particular protocol/drugs you recommend? My clinic suggest i go for egg donation but i dont think i am ready for that. I have asked for all my notes so i can get a second opinion but havent got them yet. |
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It would not be appropriate for me to make medical recommendation to someone who is not my patient. I do not knowthe clinic you are using. The only one I know, first hand, in the UK is the Borne Hall Clinic, and its medical director Mr. Peter Brinsen. If you would like a second opinion, you might see him. |
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Dear Doctor, |
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