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Hi,

I was just wondering if anyone had some thoughts on clomid. I should be starting clomid soon and I am still a lil concerned cuz I hear some pos. and neg. things. I was just hoping that I could get some feed back, good or bad.

Thank you hope to hear from someone soon.

Kim

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Alison~ Just checking up to see how the surgery was. I hope you are feeling okay.

Kim~ I took clomid for 1 cycle. I didnt really have any side effects like headache or mood swings but it did cause hostile cm and thin lining. My Re switched me to femara. It is the same idea as clomid with less side effects.

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Hi Jade,
I am back in the real world (after two days taking percocet) Yikes that stuff makes you brain dead. Anyway i haven't talked to my dr yet but she called dh when i was in recovery. She said i had stage one endo on my ovaries and a polyp or something (dh not good on the details) So that could be affecting my fertility i guess they are not as sure about the cause effect relationship when the endo is not causing severe structural damage. But i would think that those little growths would affect my eggies somehow since they are on both ovaries so praying that this helps. The dye test revealed one clear tube and one blocked. Apparently the blocked tube could be a false pos due to a tube spasm (this is just what i have read on the net) so can't wait to hear the RE's opinion on Thursday when i get the stiches out. So good luck with your dye test on monday? i hope it isn't too bad. take care thanks for checking on me.

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Alison~

I am so happy to no everything went well and I no your glad to have it done with and now move onto the next step, the worst thing is not knowing and that has been my situation for years and thank God we are all getting down to the bottom of what's goin on with our bodies so we can move on with this thing we call "infertility"! Are you in pain? I was in pain when I had the biopsy done almost two weeks I thought they should have given me a shot for pain or something it felt like the worst cramps in the world! I had a little discomfort when I had the dye test done also. I see we are both waiting to talk with our RE's, hopefully I will hear from mine by Tuesday the biopsy was the last test I had to have done so now it's down to the final results, I'm hoping he will put me on prometrium(is that spelled right?) which of course is progesterone when I spoke with the nurse last week she said from what she sees I don't suffer from Luteal Phase Defect but she also said the RE needs to review everything and discuss it further with me, well I guess I'll go walk my puppy has it been cold up there in Gainsville? It is really cold and windy today, I love it I prefer cold over hot humidity anyday! hopefully we will be moving back to California soon but this time not Southern Cali but Northern Cali not to far from San Fransico!

Hey Jade~hope all is well I have'nt been on in a lil while but I'm back on track now, you no how it is sometimes you just have to take a break from the whole TTC thing when it starts to get stressful and Dh is asking every second can we start trying again! and he knows we can't until we find out what is causing all the m/cs, so I don't no I just keep praying and I no that God will work it out for us all ;).

Take care Ladies and talk with ya'll soon~~Tiffany~~

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Hi Alison~ I am glad that your surgery is over and done with. Did they fix the polyps while they were in there? I read about the tube spasm too. Hopefully that is all it is. I know you cant wait to hear the results on Thursday. I have my HSG tomorrow. I am a little nervous- mainly about what they will or will not find. I will let you know more tomorrow.

TIffany~ Hopefully they will figure it all out and you can start trying ASAP. I know your dh will be glad about that. So you will hear more this week?

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Hi Ladies,
Tiffany: They should have given a shot for pain especially since you aren't ttc right now. Yes it was painful for me but they gave me pain pills and i didn't do much thursday or friday (and i took max dose he he). I wonder what it is if not luteal phase defect? I bet you can't wait to hear. Progesterone supplements i wonder if that is the hormone that makes us really moody when we take it. My sister was saying that when my cousin was going through IVF (cousins wife) they were fighting ALL the time cause of the hormones (just something to be careful of I see injections in my near future too) but on the positive note she had twins and then a natural birth later. Since i had some endo removed dh is saying well now that your fertile whoo hoo (talk about pressure) so i understand. Yes it has been very cold up here. California is a super neat state it would be nice to live there if not so far from my family.

Jade: I hope it went okay today the anxiety is leading up these things is the worst! Let me know how it went. the dr removed everything i think (hope) I had lots of unpleasant drainage that first day i can't imagine what it is like for people with stage 2-4 endo yikes.

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Hi ladies. THe HSG was fine today. A little painful (like extremely bad cramps) and then it was done. Everything looked fine-he said. So now we are back to the waiting game. I had some bleeding today so I hope that doesnt last long and I got the go ahead to TTC this month. Last month on the Femara I had spotting from 7 dpo until AF. I asked him about that and he said it should get better after a few months on the Femara- if not he may up my dose or put me on progestrone pill.
We had to go to a family function this weekend and my dh 2 cousins are both preg. and everyone was saying how it was our turn and asking when we would start our family. I told Dh before hand I didnt even want to go bc of that reason and he said it would be bad. When we left he complained the whole way home (2 hours) about how miserable that was and he couldnt believe all the comments. He said - now this month we have got to do this right. It has to work this month. I thought that was really funny. Like we have been doing it wrong all this time.LOL I wish that were the case. Hopefully we can get it right for him this month. I was glad to see that it effected him though. Ya know? Sorry this was so long....

I cant wait to hear results from your tests Alison and Tiffany- Hopefully the next cycle will be our month to get it right!!

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I am waiting for af (should be here this week) and then I am taking clomid cycle day 5-10. I'm really nervous. We are doing an IUI also.

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hi,
Welcome amyjoy good luck with the iui you will have to tell us how that worked out for you.

Jade: I am glad that your tubes are open phew! that is a big stress i know. I know how it is about pressure from family members too i just finally broke down and spilled the beans to one of my sisters and mom about what we are going through but i don't think i would feel comfortable doing that at a family event. That is weird about the spotting I hope he gives you some progesterone it couldn't hurt. Well i will be back to tell after thursday appt.

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Hey Ladies,

Well I spoke with a nurse from my RE's office yesterday and she said that everything looked fine from the results of the biopsy and that the RE had written down something about progesterone? I have to go in on March 6th (that was the soonest apt) to discuss everything with the RE, one thing I can say I dislike about about the office I go to is, you can only talk to your RE in person NEVER ON THE PHONE and it's at least $100 or $200 to sit down and talk with him, the last time Dh and I sat there for like 5-7 minutes that was $100, the first consultation was $350 I talked with him for like 15 minutes, that was my fault I totally froze up big time! and when I talk with the nurses on the phone it's like they don't have a clue, she said I can' t really read the Dr's notes because it's very messy but I do see something here about progesterone! What the hell does that mean? So now I have to sit on egg shells for 2 weeks before I can really find out anything? sorry for getting so frustrated, so I guess I'm still not suppose to try and get p/g until after I talk with the Dr!

Jade~it is awsome your test came back fine when I had mine done about a year ago mine came back fine as well the Dr told me as he was doing the procedure that everything looked fine and nothing was blocked, hopefully we will all be TTC around the same time, I think Af comes for you Alison and myself around the same time, that would be neat if we all got BFP in the same month :) ;) :D! let's keep praying and believing for our miracles!

Alison~can't wait to hear from you tommorow after you talk with the Dr, I know everything will be fine, hopefully we can all get this ball rollin like I told Jade! remember how I was telling you all how I suffer from horrible headaches? I read last night that this is a symptom for women who suffer from low progesterone, I already have my list ready for the Dr on the 6th I will not sit there like a fool this time and not open my mouth, I was also told by my last OB I would need to get a curcologe?(sorry that's spelled wrong, but it's when they have to sew you up) between like 11-12 weeks, so needless to say I have alot to discuss with my RE at my next apt!

Talk with you Ladies later...take care...Tiffany~~

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sorry amyjoy I forgot to resond to you, I don't no much about IUI's but I pray all goes well for you and Dh please keep us updated on your situation, I will keep you in my prayers and thoughts as well ;)..take care..Tiffany~~

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Tiffany- that is good about the test results. They should have listened to you when you mentioned progestrone. My Re said I may have to take some progestrone bc i am having some spotting before af. We will see.

Alison- Good luck with your dr tomorrow. Let us know how it goes.

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Thanks for responding. Still waiting for af. So funny, I hate when it comes, but this time I can't wait so I can get moving with everything!

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Oh, progesterone. My Dr. said he'd test my progesterone levels one week after the IUI (or intercourse if you are not doing the IUI) and if it's between 2.5 and 15, he will give me progesterone suppositories. Hope that little bit of info helps.

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Hi Ladies,
Tiffany: That stinks about the nurse not communicating well i mean how hard is it to tell you what is going on? If everything is fine then what is wrong ugh!!! I feel for you that is just craziness (expensive craziness :( ) Just give you some progesterone and you won't have headaches. Is that that thing you have to get and 11 weeks to hold your cervix shut? I know some women are dialated the whole pg.

Well my RE was positive about removing the endo and that it should help with fertility because even though it is mild it was active and could be interfering with things. We shall see how bad/good the cramps are this month. So after next period i start a new aggressive (but still only 15% chance of pg) protocol: clomid 100 mg 2x a day 5-9 FSH injections, HCG trigger and IUI. I am going to be a hormonal mess...better go someone at work is monitoring use on internet and the library is always full after work so I have much less access to this site unfortunatley.

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Wow ALison~ You really are going to be busy next cycle. Sounds like they really have a plan for you which is soooo good. Should your cramps be less this cycle bc of the endo they removed? They are putting you back on clomid?? I guess it doesnt really matter if it messes up your cm bc you will be doing IUI.Yahh. Good luck.

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HI Jade,
Thanks for your enthusiasm. Unfortunately i hadn't consulted dh before the email. He has some weird hangup about the IUI (not actually doing the act i guess) Last night he thought i was mad cause he wants to try without it (o natural ugh but they only do IUI with those expensive injections) so he said fine if you want to do ":turkey baster thing" so I know i could push for it but i am confused. As the dr said she would recommend 3 iuis then move to IVF which i am not even sure is an option for us at this point. But right after surgery is best time to do these things before the stuff grows back. But it could be the last chance for treatment. Do you see the mixed feelings i am having? What do you think you would do? Please help!!! I have a couple more weeks before af so time to think get advice etc. Any one elses input would be appreciated

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Hello everyone,

I think I left a post on this site a while ago. I just wanted to drop in and let you know that I got my BFP yesterday at 11dpo. This was my 2nd round of Clomid 100 mg days 3-7, Estrace starting 3 days after the end of my period, and 150 mg progesterone suppositories starting 3 days after ovulation.

We had been trying for more than 5 years. I'm so happy that Clomid works. I hope you get your BFP's very very soon.

Babydust to all!

ttcbb1

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~~~Hey Ladies~~~TGIF :) ;) :D

amyjoy~thanks so much for the info on progesterone. Your Dr said if it's between 2.5-15, just think mine was 1.5 so I will definently need to be on a few different kinds on progesterone, I was given crinone 8% suppositories with the last pregnancy but I still had another m/c, so I'm sure this time I will be on a natural pill and injections! Good luck

Alison~this whole thing has taken a huge toll on Dh and I, I'm sure we are all going through alot mentally but thank God it seems as if we are all getting down to the bottom of things YEAH! You sound exactly like my Dh, he said why can't they just give you the freakin progesterone so we can get the show on the road! If the progesterone is the answer to why I have had several m/cs and also why I get horrible headaches that will be my miracle prescription! And yes that is the thing where they have to sew up the cervix shut at like 11-12 weeks, I have also lost prgnancy at 5 and 5 1/2 months that was close to 10 years ago but still I don't want to take any chances. I was also told that I will have to pretty much be on bedrest and no sex the whole nine months! Let's see how Dh deals with that, he will because he wants a baby more then life it's self. I seems like you are on the right track with the IUI's hopefully you wont have to do IVF my goosh that is so expensive, I don't no much about any of it but I have read alot about women that were going through having endo removed and even a tube but with the help of IUI and all the injections you mentioned they went on to have a wonderful pregnancy, like Dh said maybe you should try naturally first since you have had the procedure done, and if that does'nt work then move on to the other things, thank God there are other options that we all have, did the Dr say how long it is before the endo can come back? my cousin had polups removed (i'm sure that's spelled wrong) and she was told they could grow back it has been like 3 years and now she does have a few small ones but it has been over 3 years! I think you also need to find that out so you will have an idea, you will continue to be in my prayers and thoughts~~~Tiffany~~~

Jade~yes I guess it was good news that the biopsy results came back fine, but I will have a better understanding of everything when I sit down with the RE on March 6th, you said that you might have to take progesterone for spotting between af, did they say what form? My goosh I now see how important progesterone is, I never had a clue! I guess were all waiting on af in a few weeks, good luck to us all we just have to continue to pray!~~~Tiffany~~~

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Alison~ That is a tough decision. I understand why your dh wants to wait. I am an impatient person so I feel like I would go for the IUI. Does your insurance cover IUI? I think that I would go for the IUI for 3 months and then try the natural way. IVf is so expensive- does your insurance cover that. I dont think mine does - i havent even checked. I think the IUI will work for you and then you wont even have to worry about IVF. At least you have a little time to decide. I wonder when i will O this month. Last month it was day 21- Do you think it could be sooner this month?

Tiffany~ I think the progestrone will be for my LP I guess. I didnt get too much info bc he is hoping it will be better this month. Plus it was during my hsg and i just wanted to get the hell outta there. LOL

ttcbb1~ Congrats.

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Hi,
Jade: I hope you ovulate earlier this month isn't your re upping the dosage of the femara. When i was on clomid and didn't ovulate until day 19 my ob said it didn't work so i hope if you get more drugs it will go quicker. I missed this month can you believe it? I just expected to o really late like I always did without meds (19-21) but low and behold i think it happened day 15. There was a chance we could have made it last night but dh was really stress out about his business so not up to it. Then said again that if i want to the iui we could YAY!! he is not allowed to change his mind for now i amgetting ready for it... I am going to go for it like you
said then worry about the rest later. Nope my insurance only covers parts of the art work which i am pretty grateful for. It probably cuts things in half or less but still kind of pricey but nowhere near what some ladies have to go through
(like Tiffany :( ) My dr gave me some idea but she isn't aware of my personal coverage so hoping it is less. What cd are you?
Tiffany: Thanks for all of the info of your friends personal experience. The dr did say that the best chance for conception would be the next 3 months so i guess they can't say for sure but everycycle that a woman bleeds she can incur lesions (that si how i understand it anyway)...Can't wait to hear what happens at your appt march 6 it will be here before you know it.

TTC: Congradulations :)

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I took clomid earlier this month, I am about 3 days from my period, I took 3 tests today, can you believe all 3 failed, I have the worst luck with these, I had 2 faint lines that may be positive, but you couldnt tell, and its not like I dont know how to test, they were also generic drugstore tests, maybe there was a defective batch, just my luck!!

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Alison~ That is great that DH changed his mind. I know you are excited to get the ball rolling. That sucks that you missed your O. I thought that you couldnt try this cycle anyways, but I guess you got the all clear to BD. So you should expect AF in the next 2 weeks? What is the first step of your new process??

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Alison~ I am on cd 15 now. No sign of O yet. I had to go get checked today bc RE thought I may have an infection from my hsg bc i am still spotting. But it is not an infection. So who knows. He said it shouldnt mess anything up for this cycle. He decided not to up my femara this cycle- he said that the longer you are on the meds the better each cycle will be. I guess we will see...

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Hi JAde,
So i guess you are looking for your surge now right? I hope your dr is right (they are the experts :) ) My dr didn't say to not try on our own so i thought what the heck because they didn't remove anything from anywhere other then ovaries. My next step is calling when af starts i think they order the meds from a special pharmacy cause they cost so much. Then i have to come in for appt before 5 day maybe an ultra sound (i forget what for i put the protocol away so i wouldn't be sad before dh agreed to do it) Good luck that dang surge better show soon.
Hi Erin two lines sounds like you are pg (you like christina applegate back during married with children :)

Better go

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Alison~I am so grumpy......my cycle sucks. I have had spotting since my hsg last monday. I had spotting last Mond-Thurs then it went away. It came back yesterday and is worse today. It is a brown spotting (sorry tmi). I went to Re yesterday bc he thought it may be infection, but he said it wasnt. So I still havent O CD16- not even close on my OPK. Do you think this spotting will mess up my cycle?? I hope the RE is right. I started OPking on cd 12- the line was darker on cd 12 than it was today. UHGGGG. I dont know how much longer I can handle this. I wish that I could have 1 normal cycle. I think the spotting may be from the meds- not the hsg. I think the Mond- Thurs spotting was from hsg but now I think it is from the meds. It caused me to spot early before AF last cycle. What do you think?
Do you have to pay for meds up front and the procedure or do they have a payment plan? How many different meds will you go on? Wont be long before AF and then you can get your new cycle started. YAAH.

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Hi Jade,
It sounds like it is the meds. How would an infection start with the HSG shouldn't they be using sterile techinique. Your RE should explain why (what physiological reason) you would spot from the meds jeez it is his specialty not just well it should stop. Have you ever had an lh surge on teh opk? My sister said one of her friends had a hormonal problem that she thinks related to that hmmmm. I would definitley pos in the morning to get most clear reading (unless you can limit liquid and hold it for 5 hours). It is hard to say if it will mess up the cycle without knowing why the medicince would cause those symptoms.... They bill me for the procedures i still owe 200 for the surgery. I am getting a new credit card with 0% interest until next feb so that i can space out the cost for a year and not pay finance charges. I will be taking clomid and FSH injections....I hope you find some answers soon you deserve more than this. Keep me posted.

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Yeah. I am still spotting. I guess I have to call RE tomorrow if it is not gone ( i know it wont be) and he wants to schedule an ultrasound. He also said he may count this as another cycle even though I didnt O and start me on more femara. I think the femara is causing this problem. It has happened before. I had spotting on bc for years and they would change it all the time. in Sept I tried Ovulex (herbal) for TTC and it caused spotting like this for 45 days. So this could go on for a while. I hope they fit me in tomorrow. I usually get an LH surge on the OPK. I have tried in the AM and in PM and it both will have a surge. I am still testing OPK right now bc RE said maybe it was mid cycle spotting before O even though I know otherwise and not even close to being a positive.SO....... we will have to wait and see. It is really depressing. .....

That is good that you had a 0% credit card bc that will help alot. I hate that it is so expensive but it will be well worth it. I hope you get your BFP soon bc I can sure use some good news to give me hope.

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Hi,
I am glad you have has luck with the opks. That completely SUCKS about the spotting i would be really depressed about it too UGH "It will happen when its meant to when you give up and aren't thinking about it" (argh! that is the advice everyone is giving me don't you hate it) but sometimes it is only angle left to rely it seems but i can't just forget about it the clock is a tickin. So will upping dosage cause more spotting? How many more months are going to stick with femara? What is causing the ovulation problem? Has your re hinted at reasons or said anything?.... I took ovulex too not too sure what to say about that stuff but it sure is expensive. I better go talk to you later

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Alison~ My spotting isnt quite as bad today- still there though. I hate when everyone gives you the advice about dont try so hard. I dont know if upping the dose will cause more spotting. I dont think my RE thinks it is the meds causing the spotting. He said we will try the femara for 3 or so months (that I actually ovulate) and then move on from there. This is month 2- if it works. He hasnt really said reasons for it but I have irregular cycles. I read an article yesterday in the newspaper about eating ice cream helps with infertility. YAAH- that is good news..... oh and that low fat dairy may cause infertility. I didnt really believe it but I looked it up online and found a few websites about it. So i may start the ice cream treatment this weekend. LOL
http://www.24dash.c
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is the website if you want to read it.
When are you expecting AF? I hope she hurries up for you. You missed your O window, right? If you didnt I hope she doesnt come for you.......Have a great weekend!

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hi,
My friend told me about that article. I guess it won't help me though cause i don't think my problem is ovulation. I was scared about until i got to that part because i just started a weight watchers ice cream bar addiction (they have these great chocolate/chocolate ones). From what you said you could handle the extra fat so go for it. I was looking up possible dietary modifications for endometriosis and came across an article that described the "prototype" for it as being caucasian, slim sometimes overly anxious female who has prolonged her fertility. Well darn it I am the poster child (is that you too?). Okay so you have about 3 more months on Femara at worst. I wish something would happen for you already this month. I hope you don't have to move on from there but i am really curious as the WHYS of your ovulation problems. At this point i feel personally invested he he. One of these days soon i am going to set up a yahoo account right now i only have state email address then if it is ok with you guys have you email me on that. I like sharing if anyone is still reading but i am scared about coming to this site at work (no computer at home) is it considered a chat room? Basically anything fun is not a llowed anymore. jeez this thing is long sorry have a good weekend too

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