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boonka - April 10th, 2008 2:51 AM

here is my story...
I have had 3 miscarrages by the same person in 3 years...
i had to have a dnc with my last one with was 2-14-08
my doctor sent me to a spcialist. and he did blood work on me.
all my test came back negative but my mthfr heterozygous c677t test.
and the doctor told me i have 1 copy of it. not the homo. but i have the hetro...
can someone please help me out and explain in a civialan language what exactly this mean??? he did but it was up in the air....
will i ever be able to carry a child full term?
will i ever be able to get back on any kind of oral birthcontrol?
what are my risks?
is there a cure?
will i always be positive?
will i forever half to take a baby asprin a day?
will it cause heart touble anyone and someone please help me.
we would like to try to concive and our 2 months are up.... i just would like to know is it safe or should i concult with the dr b4 we try again?!!!


Marina - April 10th, 2008 12:25 PM

Boonka,I'm not a doctor,but since I have a similar story,they tested me for the same things.I dont have all my results back,but with you what it means is MTFR is a gene mutation and it affects an ability to process vitamin B group and folic acid,which cause your blood to form blood clots.This is not the end of the world and you just have to be on one of the grugs (Lovenox or Heparin) and baby aspirin during your Pregnancy or whatever your doctor prescribes you.We have a separate forum "Lovenox and Pregnancy",those people can tell you a lot about your problem.Good luck!


lyly14 - April 10th, 2008 1:34 PM

Hi girls- I have 2 copies of the Mthfr gene defect myself. From what I was told and all the research and specialist I have seen this is what I know: people with one copy are not at any more risk. If you have 2 copies or one of each (there are 2 for the mthfr c677t and another one starts with an A) you are at increased risk for vascular disease, thrombosis and of course the dreaded m/c (our immediate main concern, although all not good). The gene interferes with you bodies ability to metabolize folic acid. They don't usually treat with lovenox or heprin unless you have other clotting factors involved. For MTHFR they typically treat you with folic acid and baby asprin. They have me on 2mg of folic acid twice a day (4mg total) and one baby asprin.

Boonka- You can double check with your dr but I think you are okay with just one copy. Many people have this mutation and are healthy. But you will always come up positive for this since this is an actual genetic mutation so it doesn't change. Good luck


boonka - April 11th, 2008 8:45 PM

thanks guys... i am still wanting to here more stories and research.... i am at the point ever little bit of information and stories help...
i am just 21.... and i never thought that i would be faced with a blood abnormality or anything....
i am still discuraged....
i one day want to be a mother... and have a family i guess i will never have a stress free pregnancy...
but about the birth control situation....
does anyone know if ill ever be able to take birth control?


boonka - April 17th, 2008 1:31 AM

i spoke with my doctor... does these doctors orders sound normal??
just 1 mg of folic acid and prenatal vit. and iron pills...
no one said anything about my iron being low so i was unsure of why i have been prescribed it... and i was wondering why i am off my baby asprin they said when i get preg i need to get back on it! someone please help!


lyly14 - April 17th, 2008 9:41 AM

Boonka- Prenatal vitamins also have folic acid so you are really getting about 2mg. As far as the iron I am not sure why they prescribed it for you. Many women do become anemic when pregnant so maybe they are just being cautious, but if you are concerned call back and ask. I was already taking the baby asprin myself before I was checked for the MTHFR so I take that for the antiphospholipid syndrome. With Mthfr I don't think you need it unless your homocystein levels are high or you get pg. What did the dr. say about birth control pills?


boonka - April 19th, 2008 12:27 AM

ok, my doctor said considering the fact mthfr is a sort of blood clotting disorder that he would not suggest taking any form of hormone... so i guess no birthcontrol...
i am 21!! and it is really in a bind for me
pretty much there saying if u get preg prepare for the risk! and be ready for a long pregnancy!!!! but then again
its like if i do get preg im such a high risk so there like DONT get preg unless u are positive u are ready emotionally.... blahh blahhh but if u arent i wouldnt suggest it! so then there saying
NO BiRTHCONTROL
so really what is there to do.... we have been together 5 years... u know i am not excited about the whole condom thing again the vag foam is just messy... i mean its really just crazzy.... but no to answer ur question no hormones.
my doctor also told me to go ahead and start trying if i was ready... 2 weeks later after trying my specialist called me and said NO NO NO dont try until u have a hsg???? test.....
soooooooo...... now i got to wait and i guess hope i didnt actually become preg because i need that test done...
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another topic....
my friend has myhfr and factor 5......
she had a baby when she was 18 years old and had NO extra vit. no extra anything and she has both genes!!!
it was a mircle she even had such a successful preg!!!
i am kinda superstisious....
but she had never in her life taken any kinda birthcontrol.....
i wonder if considering she had never taken any oral contrceptives did that make her pregnancy go so right...
and right after her 1st child was born un aware of haveing either genes.... she got on the pill
for 7 years came off the pill and ended up miscarring...
so the doctors checked her and sure enough she had both...
was it just how the hand was delt or do u belive actual birthcontrol triggerd the genes....
to me thats what i think...
but who knows....


lyly14 - April 19th, 2008 11:33 AM

Boonka- I was on birth control pills for 7 years from 16-23 before I knew I had any of these problems. I came off the pill and had sex 14 days after I stopped the pill and got pregnant with my daughter who is now 9 yrs old. Had a somewhat hard pregnancy but not related to any of these problems and I have 2 copies of the mthfr. I found out in my late 20's I had antiphospholipid syndrome and everyone was amazed I was able to have my daughter. I was told no hormones. I didn't try to get pg again until I was 30 and got pg easily 3 times but all ended. I then found out about the 2 copies of mthfr. The genes are genes you are born with they are part of your dna they are not antibodies or a virus that can be triggered. You are either born with them or not, its just a matter of if you have them checked. If you don't have a problem they don't look for them.

As far as the hsg test you need to make sure you are not pg before they do it because it will cause you to miscarry if you are. So if there is a chance you are hold off on the test until next cycle.


mamarox - December 30th, 2008 5:18 PM

Hi Boonka, I am a nurse in an infertility clinic and we have many patients who have Recurrent Pregnancy Loss when they come to see us. After they have lost many pregnancies, we find out that they have MTHFR. One copy is not as significant as having 2 copies. With 2 copies, there is an increased risk of for blood clotting in both the arteries and veins. But...you don't have this. We treat our patients with Folgard 2.2mg 2 tablets per day, morning and night, your Prenatal Vitamins, and a baby aspirin a day. Folgard is a prescription Vitamin and must be given to you by your doctor. I don't think you should have any trouble getting that from him. Although there is no cure for this MTHFR gene, one treatment appears to be very helpful in reducing the homocysteine levels that the inability to digest folic acid as well brings. Taking high amounts of the the vitamin...folic acid and possibly vitamins B6 and B12, should make the MTHFR enzyme work at maximum efficiency. The reason that you may be having trouble carrying a baby is that MTHFR can cause clotting in the tiny little blood vessels feeding the placenta and the tiny umbilical cord feeding that baby. That's why the Folgard is such a good choice. We have had MANY healthy babies born to our mommies who have this problem. I would suggest that you see an infertility doctor instead of just an OB/GYN. Re: Birth Control....I know that all of the options that you have are pretty messy. Have you discussed whether there are any other options to you with your doctor? Sounds like he is not the most compassionate guy around. Take care.


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